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请教这四种类似结构某个C化学位移的相对大小

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发表于 2009-5-28 16:27:12 | 显示全部楼层

4>3, 4>1

3>2,
1>2

3>1 (-OCO- alpha +56.5; belta +6.5; -OH alpha +49.0, belta +10.1) although 3 is close to 1

4>3>1>2

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according to your conclusion,maybe 3 is the  lowest

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发表于 2009-5-28 22:02:51 | 显示全部楼层
 Why?
The conclusion is 4>3>1>2.
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发表于 2009-5-28 23:13:32 | 显示全部楼层
  On acetylation (OH group was changed to OCOCH3 group), the alpha ' X A! k( J7 Q# i( L* Kcarbon will show a downfield shift while the belta carbon will show a6 w. M0 c, M. x/ O upfield shif.
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+ y- Z; _4 l, [+ s% D" ?% h See the following article how to revise a structure reported before just using the above rule!
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% g$ H6 H9 q2 @4 R. [7 G% P, X* d/ g Another compound with one OH group acetylated: it could be C-6 OAc, C-7 ( a; P6 L) y" K2 G, ^: J# @OH (compound I in the article) or could be C-6 OH, C-7OAc (compound II % L8 @2 J) P0 t9 b' L6 uin the article). The chemical shifts of the two carbons are 78.1 and 6 h* Y$ h$ g# [) a+ a5 |$ g80.5. How to determine which carbon (C-6 or C-7) has the OAC group?

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1 ?* k. c, r/ \3 U( N' f/ oThe auhors resovled the problem:
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. |! d5 U1 |* [- N. B+ \! _ If C-6 (80.5) and C-7 (78.5) were right, meaning both the chemical : ^$ |8 A- m" r" E; nshifts of C-6 (79.3 to 80.5) and C-7 (76.2 to 78.5) were increased. : a0 u3 d3 f% ^# {. j- ~That assupmtion violates the above rule.
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- z# \/ I$ g3 w" b# e* \* ^ So chemical shift of C-6 was not 80.5 but 78.5, chemical shift of C-7 was not 78.5 but 80.5.
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$ z6 I v# p5 u4 ~+ q: KC-6 (78.5) and C-7 (80.5) meaned that C-6 shifted to highfield (from8 R$ C, ?5 P; G 79.3 to 78.5), C-7 shifted to lowfield (from 76.2 to 80.5). Logically, 5 j4 t5 @( ]2 H9 ~it was the C-7 with the OAC group (compound II), not the C-6 with the. L) f6 O! F8 k0 ^9 M OAC group (compound I).
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发表于 2009-5-28 23:17:25 | 显示全部楼层
 

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发表于 2009-5-28 23:32:40 | 显示全部楼层
More example:

CH3CH2OH  chemical shift values: 18 (CH3), 58 (CH2).
CH3CH2OAc chemical shifts values: 14 (CH3), 60 (CH2).

These data should be remembered to remind the above rule.

alpha carbon 60>58;

belta carbon 14<18.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-31 10:07:36 | 显示全部楼层
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